how much do mexican wrestlers make?
im interested in going to mexico to become a pro wrestler does any1 kno about how much money they make?
Wrestling - 5 Answers
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1 :
IM GUESSING THEY MAKE DECENT MONEY FOR MEXICO AT LEAST. MUST BE DECENT SINCE X-PAC IS STILL THERE AND I WOULD GUESS HE COULD GET BACK IN TNA IF HE WANTED BUT FOR AN EXACT NUMBER IM NOT SURE.
2 :
they get a bottle of tequila for each fight, for looking so stupid, do they really think normal sane people think this crap is real
3 :
i wouldn't say a lot but maybe a decent about of money.
4 :
A lot of pesos! They are considered superstars over there.
5 :
Well, I've heard that they make like 50,000 pesos more or less per month, its about $5,000. I would be happy with 5,000 bucks a month I've been on Mexico and thats what people say, their salaries are a bit of a mystery
Monday, April 28, 2014
Monday, April 14, 2014
What do the classical contributors make of the parlous state of orchestras around the world?
What do the classical contributors make of the parlous state of orchestras around the world?
I am surprised that this hasn't been asked yet on this board (or perhaps it has and I missed it?), but I have been reading with increasing dismay about many leading orchestras going to the wall or in serious trouble. In the USA, the Honolulu, New Mexico and Syracuse orchestras are no more, the Philadelphia Orchestra has filed for bankruptcy protection, the Detroit Symphony Orchestra has been almost ruined by strikes and many other leading orchestras are in deep financial trouble. In the USA there is no state subsidy for the arts. In Europe, many smaller German orchestras have disappeared or have merged and in the Netherlands, some of the most prestigious musical organisations are in danger of going bust without their traditional state subsidies (or huge cuts in them). In Europe, state subsidy is normal (to varying degrees) for orchestras. It seems neither system is working right now, so what's the answer? Of course, many orchestras would survive on playing the classical pops time after time with freelance players drafted in as necessary (some very major orchestras in the UK have always used freelance rather than contracted musicians), but what service does that give to music? How would living composers get their new works played? How would we get to hear fine music that didn't draw-in the crowds? Not very 'creative', is it? When times get tough, the arts are always the first target for cuts. Yet orchestras' budgets are TINY in the great scheme of things. The annual bonus awarded to a top banking executive in the City of London would keep a chamber orchestra in the UK going for about 2 years. How can this be right (don't think that the money-grabbing banker is going to part with any of his wad to support music - he won't!)? So, in reality, these swingeing and crippling cuts make very little difference to the national debt whatsoever, yet politicians always focus on orchestras and opera companies first. Could it be that the cynical politicians are relying on the (erroneous) public perception that the arts are a huge drain on the economy? And don't forget that orchestras put BACK a lot of money into the coffers through taxes and tourism. So, good people, what's the way forward?
Classical - 9 Answers
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1 :
Your absolutely right. It seems we live in an age where fine arts are being neglected by people in general. I love classical music and going to the orchestra. I'm also a piano teacher. One thing that may be a factor is the bad state of the economy. Many people just don't have the extra funds to go to see orchestra concerts. Also, I think people today have less sophisticated taste in music than they did even 20-50 years ago. Sad to say many would rather go see that stupid Bieber kid than listen to real music from an orchestra. In some cities there are volunteer orchestras and free concerts. So, that may be an option for some people. I live in Houston and thankfully we have pretty good support for the symphony and fine arts in our city. Along with that we have two major universities that form an enclave for support in classical music and the arts. Such as the University of Houston Moores school of music and the Rice University music department. I think the only thing we can do is try to help people be more aware of the joy and glory of classical music and the symphony. Creating more interest in orchestras and their decline may help to save them. Thanks for your post.
2 :
The major metropolitan orchestras like the New York Phil are not under any serious threat, however most smaller regional orchestras are in varying degrees of trouble. I'm not familiar with the nuts and bolts of the European system of government subsidy so I won't comment in any detail on that. We can do a case study of two orchestras in more or less comprable towns: Louisville and Rochester. Both are cities of about 1 million people and have had professional orchestras for nearly a century. Both have had long standing ties with corporate donors native to their city; in Louisville the tobacco and whiskey companies and in Rochester Kodak. One of the major direct incentives in the American tax code is a tax write-off for these kinds of corporate donations. For each orchestra these mainstay corporate sponsors account for largest single contributor of annual revenue. During the boom of the 90s both orchestras had record high musician salary, but when the economy dries up so too does arts funding and consequently something had to give. The Louisville orchestra has had a series of pay cuts and reductions in benefits so that its members have seen about a 30% cut in pay. Rochester had to make some cutbacks, however they were not nearly as severe. It comes down to revenue generated from ticket sales and community sponsorship. So what's the difference? At first glance we might be inclined to say that upstate New York is just more culturally literate than the south, but I have a hard time buying that argument. There is a major difference between the approach each orchestra had to building their audience. Louisville essentially wanted to rest on their laurels after the glow of Robert Whitney. Rochester by contrast aggressively asserts itself outside of its regular concert series with community outreach programs, chamber music series, having their musicians go into the public school system for music education programs. The consequence was a generation with a higher degree of musical literacy, many of whom are now regular concert goers. There's also the Pittsburgh argument for orchestras and the arts in general. Pittsburgh politicians in the 70s and 80s in retrospect now realize they got it wrong. Their plan was to cut anything deemed non-essential and focus on business incentives, which worked well in the short term. The trouble with politicians is that most of them have trouble seeing past the next election so long term solutions become cannon fodder for misguided populism. In the long term there are now major corporations that have had to move out of pittsburgh because of the general dearth of arts. It turns out that to attract the best people for high paying corporate jobs you have to also convince them to move somewhere, and many of them surveyed the landscape there and said no despite many tax and pay incentives. So what is the way forward? It think it comes down to getting music education early in life and getting politicians out of the equation.
3 :
Good question and unfortunately there is not one solution that would solve this situation. If someone asked me today if capitalism is a success, I would have to say it is a gigantic failure. Here in the US our economic system only has a few more years to go before our middle class becomes extinct. I was born in 1945 and as I was growing up I realized that the middle class supported this whole country. The poor could not pay taxes and wealthy had all of the tax breaks. Now with the middle class very quickly growing smaller and most of them moving into the poverty classification there are fewer to support all of the government and private programs I grew up with. For me, hanging perilously onto my middle class status is getting more difficult each day. Living from paycheck to paycheck I find it difficult to part with $80.00 to $150.00 to go and see Porgy & Bess. For a family of 4 to go to a concert may cost $300.00 or more. Disneyland now is almost $100. for an adult ticket and that is just for admission, not counting all of the other expenses you will pay once inside the park. The trickle-down theory of economics is not working and sorry to say that until we make some huge adjustments in the way we do business, I do not see a bright future for the arts or the country as a whole. On the bright side I have enough CD's to last me for the rest of my life.
4 :
It is only a matter of time until many fall by the wayside. Our country is moving further away from arts such as classical music as each day goes by. I saw this coming years ago. There is nothing that can be done about it in this country due to changes in racial demographics.
5 :
Bob Tryon makes a novel suggestion, that "there is nothing that can be done about it [the decline of the arts] in this country due to changes in racial demographics." I'm sure the PC thought police will bridle at tying race to appreciation of the arts but I don't want to dismiss the idea on that basis. Let's see if it can be defended. As far as I know, professional orchestras are a staple of metropolitan areas worldwide *except* in African countries, which have predominantly black populations. The rest of the races on this planet seem to support musical organizations. So is Bob onto something? It depends on whether his country's population is growing blacker. There do seem to be more blacks in the Netherlands than there were in the recent past. Would their presence make the dwindling white population less interested in music? Perhaps blacks are receiving funds that would go to orchestras if they weren't there? I suppose this is possible but one would want to see specifics before one would accept the theory.
6 :
I don't know that there is an answer. I'm not big on have the government pay for everything; I'd rather have the arts support themselves. But it is a despite situation. There aren't enough patrons of the arts, and the cost of doing business continues to rise. Raising the price of tickets results in fewer tickets sold. Lowering the price means not enough revenue. Without private and corporate sponsorships orchestras will disappear. A 2009 show "The Audition: A documentary" http://www.metoperafamily.org/metopera/news/features/detail.aspx?id=6172 included a dire prediction about the average age of the people who went to the opera. Something along the lines of, "ten years ago the average age of a patron was 55, now it is 65." As pointed out previously, the cost of tickets is high, but not so high that people couldn't afford them if they cared to. There are still enough folks going to Broadway shows; productions like PoTO, Chicago, The Lion King and Wicked continue to fill theaters. Even Mary Poppins is making a comeback. The MET (though Fathom Events) has offered matinees in movie theaters. not nearly often enough, and people seem to have figured out that it will be on PBS during the next pledge drive, so people seem to be staying away in droves now. Other houses, including some from Europe have attempted the same broadcast technique. (I haven't seen any of those shows because the weren't shown locally.) With the plummeting sales of CD (media), and things coming over streaming media I wonder what the future will hold. I'm still a "hands-on" kind of guy. There are plenty of local, regional and college venues I could frequent, but don't. And I have no real desire to do the San Francisco thing either. ... So, I guess I'm part of the problem.
7 :
In Germany, and by extension, to most of the other major continental european countries, this has a definite starting point: Arts and Culture policies after the Great War ( WWI). Music somehow held on during the brief respite until WWII, but afterwards the re-building of cities took precedence over art of any kind. My older colleagues ( now retired or dead) told stories of how the whole city of Aachen contributed to rebuilding the opera house after it too was damaged severely in bombing raids. visitors often paid in coal or foodstuffs. With the re-establishment of a more-or-less normal standard of living in the late 50s and 60s, Government started neglecting the educational aspects of music and culture. Perhaps because they had grown up without? Perhaps it just didn't seem relevant enough to the business world. With the reunion in 1989 to East Germany,( which even most conservative economists say was chivvied along too quickly and unrealistically) many of the "New" german communities found their cultural establishments strapped for the subsidized funds no longer available, and were forced into mergers. From about 150 opera houses and orchestras throughout the country, we are down to about 100 to date, an our nation-wide orchestral union regularly sends out messages to rally around one or another opera theater/orchestra at the edge of existence. the last couple of years' economic disaster has taken its toll here as well. Wages are frozen, many perks have been cut, never to return ( dry cleaning for your tuxedo!, string money for the whole string section, fender-bender repairs for brass, reeds for the winds). Our orchestra just last night taped a piece for the benefit for the colleagues in Holland ( within spitting distance for us)to help out their desperate situation. More and more orchestras are fishing for sponsors and other private measures. That means more work, mind you, as these groups expect their very own set of concerts for no extra pay, of course. I think, until music and arts are firmly re-established in a country's/culture's educational concept, the whole idea of participation and support will continue to languish. If one thing positive can be said about our global links through the net, it can be this: classical music is also being broadcast more than before. Granted, YouTube doesn't include some of the treasures that many of you may have at home, but more than the Top 10 is available! Don't despair, friends, but continue to make music.
8 :
Allow me to address a curiosity, before that of the main point of your question:your usage of the word "parlous". I have to admit, that I've never come across it before, and wondering why your employment of it here? . Merriam-Webster's definition, in case you might be interested: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/parlous?show=0&t=1309407251 To your main point: "what's the way forward?" In my view, there is none - in terms of turning the trend around; I see only further decline in the financial support of all institutions relating to serious/Western Art Music - performing, or otherwise. A very sad commentary indeed, on (IMHO) the continuing degradation of Western societal values in general. One could cite I suppose the changing economic demographics, or the evolution of a global economy; but these in an ultimate analysis I would wager to be invalid. I would be willing to share my box of handkerchiefs with you? Alberich
9 :
I cannot really contribute to the whole economics conversation, because I'm not very well informed. I'm only a teenager that loves classical music. But it makes me sad. I wish there was a way to put more emotional emphasis on "sad" because this sadness is deep and unrelenting: that my love, this beautiful art form - it's dying. It's dying, and I can't do anything about it by myself. I'm very glad to have found an entire school full of people my age that have this beautiful, strong passion for classical music, and they play with all the power they can muster from every cell in their body, and these people are my friends. These people are working their butts off every day, pushing their hearts through their bows and leaving their souls in their reeds and no one gives a damn anymore. If they're lucky, someone will stop and think, "Oh, that's nice," but then they'll spend all their money buying these shallow, empty tracks of pitiful music that's all similar, all about the sex, all about the money, and where's the actual music? I am fifteen years old and I'm looking at other people my age and I'm wondering why they aren't trying to keep this music alive. Our school is facing a lot of financial difficulties because our budget was cut in half. We only have one bass, and nine bassists. Our pianos are all out of tune (which is really only an inconvenience to those with perfect pitch, but a good third of us are able to notice this, including myself). One of our two main buildings is prone to flooding, and we can't afford to patch up the holes. The public schools we come from aren't willing to pay for the gas it takes to bus us back and forth. I don't want it to die. I don't know what to do. I wish I did know. We are an endangered species. There's not much we can do. We give our love to our children and hope to whomever we pray to that it stays alive through them when we die.
I am surprised that this hasn't been asked yet on this board (or perhaps it has and I missed it?), but I have been reading with increasing dismay about many leading orchestras going to the wall or in serious trouble. In the USA, the Honolulu, New Mexico and Syracuse orchestras are no more, the Philadelphia Orchestra has filed for bankruptcy protection, the Detroit Symphony Orchestra has been almost ruined by strikes and many other leading orchestras are in deep financial trouble. In the USA there is no state subsidy for the arts. In Europe, many smaller German orchestras have disappeared or have merged and in the Netherlands, some of the most prestigious musical organisations are in danger of going bust without their traditional state subsidies (or huge cuts in them). In Europe, state subsidy is normal (to varying degrees) for orchestras. It seems neither system is working right now, so what's the answer? Of course, many orchestras would survive on playing the classical pops time after time with freelance players drafted in as necessary (some very major orchestras in the UK have always used freelance rather than contracted musicians), but what service does that give to music? How would living composers get their new works played? How would we get to hear fine music that didn't draw-in the crowds? Not very 'creative', is it? When times get tough, the arts are always the first target for cuts. Yet orchestras' budgets are TINY in the great scheme of things. The annual bonus awarded to a top banking executive in the City of London would keep a chamber orchestra in the UK going for about 2 years. How can this be right (don't think that the money-grabbing banker is going to part with any of his wad to support music - he won't!)? So, in reality, these swingeing and crippling cuts make very little difference to the national debt whatsoever, yet politicians always focus on orchestras and opera companies first. Could it be that the cynical politicians are relying on the (erroneous) public perception that the arts are a huge drain on the economy? And don't forget that orchestras put BACK a lot of money into the coffers through taxes and tourism. So, good people, what's the way forward?
Classical - 9 Answers
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1 :
Your absolutely right. It seems we live in an age where fine arts are being neglected by people in general. I love classical music and going to the orchestra. I'm also a piano teacher. One thing that may be a factor is the bad state of the economy. Many people just don't have the extra funds to go to see orchestra concerts. Also, I think people today have less sophisticated taste in music than they did even 20-50 years ago. Sad to say many would rather go see that stupid Bieber kid than listen to real music from an orchestra. In some cities there are volunteer orchestras and free concerts. So, that may be an option for some people. I live in Houston and thankfully we have pretty good support for the symphony and fine arts in our city. Along with that we have two major universities that form an enclave for support in classical music and the arts. Such as the University of Houston Moores school of music and the Rice University music department. I think the only thing we can do is try to help people be more aware of the joy and glory of classical music and the symphony. Creating more interest in orchestras and their decline may help to save them. Thanks for your post.
2 :
The major metropolitan orchestras like the New York Phil are not under any serious threat, however most smaller regional orchestras are in varying degrees of trouble. I'm not familiar with the nuts and bolts of the European system of government subsidy so I won't comment in any detail on that. We can do a case study of two orchestras in more or less comprable towns: Louisville and Rochester. Both are cities of about 1 million people and have had professional orchestras for nearly a century. Both have had long standing ties with corporate donors native to their city; in Louisville the tobacco and whiskey companies and in Rochester Kodak. One of the major direct incentives in the American tax code is a tax write-off for these kinds of corporate donations. For each orchestra these mainstay corporate sponsors account for largest single contributor of annual revenue. During the boom of the 90s both orchestras had record high musician salary, but when the economy dries up so too does arts funding and consequently something had to give. The Louisville orchestra has had a series of pay cuts and reductions in benefits so that its members have seen about a 30% cut in pay. Rochester had to make some cutbacks, however they were not nearly as severe. It comes down to revenue generated from ticket sales and community sponsorship. So what's the difference? At first glance we might be inclined to say that upstate New York is just more culturally literate than the south, but I have a hard time buying that argument. There is a major difference between the approach each orchestra had to building their audience. Louisville essentially wanted to rest on their laurels after the glow of Robert Whitney. Rochester by contrast aggressively asserts itself outside of its regular concert series with community outreach programs, chamber music series, having their musicians go into the public school system for music education programs. The consequence was a generation with a higher degree of musical literacy, many of whom are now regular concert goers. There's also the Pittsburgh argument for orchestras and the arts in general. Pittsburgh politicians in the 70s and 80s in retrospect now realize they got it wrong. Their plan was to cut anything deemed non-essential and focus on business incentives, which worked well in the short term. The trouble with politicians is that most of them have trouble seeing past the next election so long term solutions become cannon fodder for misguided populism. In the long term there are now major corporations that have had to move out of pittsburgh because of the general dearth of arts. It turns out that to attract the best people for high paying corporate jobs you have to also convince them to move somewhere, and many of them surveyed the landscape there and said no despite many tax and pay incentives. So what is the way forward? It think it comes down to getting music education early in life and getting politicians out of the equation.
3 :
Good question and unfortunately there is not one solution that would solve this situation. If someone asked me today if capitalism is a success, I would have to say it is a gigantic failure. Here in the US our economic system only has a few more years to go before our middle class becomes extinct. I was born in 1945 and as I was growing up I realized that the middle class supported this whole country. The poor could not pay taxes and wealthy had all of the tax breaks. Now with the middle class very quickly growing smaller and most of them moving into the poverty classification there are fewer to support all of the government and private programs I grew up with. For me, hanging perilously onto my middle class status is getting more difficult each day. Living from paycheck to paycheck I find it difficult to part with $80.00 to $150.00 to go and see Porgy & Bess. For a family of 4 to go to a concert may cost $300.00 or more. Disneyland now is almost $100. for an adult ticket and that is just for admission, not counting all of the other expenses you will pay once inside the park. The trickle-down theory of economics is not working and sorry to say that until we make some huge adjustments in the way we do business, I do not see a bright future for the arts or the country as a whole. On the bright side I have enough CD's to last me for the rest of my life.
4 :
It is only a matter of time until many fall by the wayside. Our country is moving further away from arts such as classical music as each day goes by. I saw this coming years ago. There is nothing that can be done about it in this country due to changes in racial demographics.
5 :
Bob Tryon makes a novel suggestion, that "there is nothing that can be done about it [the decline of the arts] in this country due to changes in racial demographics." I'm sure the PC thought police will bridle at tying race to appreciation of the arts but I don't want to dismiss the idea on that basis. Let's see if it can be defended. As far as I know, professional orchestras are a staple of metropolitan areas worldwide *except* in African countries, which have predominantly black populations. The rest of the races on this planet seem to support musical organizations. So is Bob onto something? It depends on whether his country's population is growing blacker. There do seem to be more blacks in the Netherlands than there were in the recent past. Would their presence make the dwindling white population less interested in music? Perhaps blacks are receiving funds that would go to orchestras if they weren't there? I suppose this is possible but one would want to see specifics before one would accept the theory.
6 :
I don't know that there is an answer. I'm not big on have the government pay for everything; I'd rather have the arts support themselves. But it is a despite situation. There aren't enough patrons of the arts, and the cost of doing business continues to rise. Raising the price of tickets results in fewer tickets sold. Lowering the price means not enough revenue. Without private and corporate sponsorships orchestras will disappear. A 2009 show "The Audition: A documentary" http://www.metoperafamily.org/metopera/news/features/detail.aspx?id=6172 included a dire prediction about the average age of the people who went to the opera. Something along the lines of, "ten years ago the average age of a patron was 55, now it is 65." As pointed out previously, the cost of tickets is high, but not so high that people couldn't afford them if they cared to. There are still enough folks going to Broadway shows; productions like PoTO, Chicago, The Lion King and Wicked continue to fill theaters. Even Mary Poppins is making a comeback. The MET (though Fathom Events) has offered matinees in movie theaters. not nearly often enough, and people seem to have figured out that it will be on PBS during the next pledge drive, so people seem to be staying away in droves now. Other houses, including some from Europe have attempted the same broadcast technique. (I haven't seen any of those shows because the weren't shown locally.) With the plummeting sales of CD (media), and things coming over streaming media I wonder what the future will hold. I'm still a "hands-on" kind of guy. There are plenty of local, regional and college venues I could frequent, but don't. And I have no real desire to do the San Francisco thing either. ... So, I guess I'm part of the problem.
7 :
In Germany, and by extension, to most of the other major continental european countries, this has a definite starting point: Arts and Culture policies after the Great War ( WWI). Music somehow held on during the brief respite until WWII, but afterwards the re-building of cities took precedence over art of any kind. My older colleagues ( now retired or dead) told stories of how the whole city of Aachen contributed to rebuilding the opera house after it too was damaged severely in bombing raids. visitors often paid in coal or foodstuffs. With the re-establishment of a more-or-less normal standard of living in the late 50s and 60s, Government started neglecting the educational aspects of music and culture. Perhaps because they had grown up without? Perhaps it just didn't seem relevant enough to the business world. With the reunion in 1989 to East Germany,( which even most conservative economists say was chivvied along too quickly and unrealistically) many of the "New" german communities found their cultural establishments strapped for the subsidized funds no longer available, and were forced into mergers. From about 150 opera houses and orchestras throughout the country, we are down to about 100 to date, an our nation-wide orchestral union regularly sends out messages to rally around one or another opera theater/orchestra at the edge of existence. the last couple of years' economic disaster has taken its toll here as well. Wages are frozen, many perks have been cut, never to return ( dry cleaning for your tuxedo!, string money for the whole string section, fender-bender repairs for brass, reeds for the winds). Our orchestra just last night taped a piece for the benefit for the colleagues in Holland ( within spitting distance for us)to help out their desperate situation. More and more orchestras are fishing for sponsors and other private measures. That means more work, mind you, as these groups expect their very own set of concerts for no extra pay, of course. I think, until music and arts are firmly re-established in a country's/culture's educational concept, the whole idea of participation and support will continue to languish. If one thing positive can be said about our global links through the net, it can be this: classical music is also being broadcast more than before. Granted, YouTube doesn't include some of the treasures that many of you may have at home, but more than the Top 10 is available! Don't despair, friends, but continue to make music.
8 :
Allow me to address a curiosity, before that of the main point of your question:your usage of the word "parlous". I have to admit, that I've never come across it before, and wondering why your employment of it here? . Merriam-Webster's definition, in case you might be interested: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/parlous?show=0&t=1309407251 To your main point: "what's the way forward?" In my view, there is none - in terms of turning the trend around; I see only further decline in the financial support of all institutions relating to serious/Western Art Music - performing, or otherwise. A very sad commentary indeed, on (IMHO) the continuing degradation of Western societal values in general. One could cite I suppose the changing economic demographics, or the evolution of a global economy; but these in an ultimate analysis I would wager to be invalid. I would be willing to share my box of handkerchiefs with you? Alberich
9 :
I cannot really contribute to the whole economics conversation, because I'm not very well informed. I'm only a teenager that loves classical music. But it makes me sad. I wish there was a way to put more emotional emphasis on "sad" because this sadness is deep and unrelenting: that my love, this beautiful art form - it's dying. It's dying, and I can't do anything about it by myself. I'm very glad to have found an entire school full of people my age that have this beautiful, strong passion for classical music, and they play with all the power they can muster from every cell in their body, and these people are my friends. These people are working their butts off every day, pushing their hearts through their bows and leaving their souls in their reeds and no one gives a damn anymore. If they're lucky, someone will stop and think, "Oh, that's nice," but then they'll spend all their money buying these shallow, empty tracks of pitiful music that's all similar, all about the sex, all about the money, and where's the actual music? I am fifteen years old and I'm looking at other people my age and I'm wondering why they aren't trying to keep this music alive. Our school is facing a lot of financial difficulties because our budget was cut in half. We only have one bass, and nine bassists. Our pianos are all out of tune (which is really only an inconvenience to those with perfect pitch, but a good third of us are able to notice this, including myself). One of our two main buildings is prone to flooding, and we can't afford to patch up the holes. The public schools we come from aren't willing to pay for the gas it takes to bus us back and forth. I don't want it to die. I don't know what to do. I wish I did know. We are an endangered species. There's not much we can do. We give our love to our children and hope to whomever we pray to that it stays alive through them when we die.
Monday, April 7, 2014
Why hasn't the United States given aid to Mexico to improve their economic and crime situations?
Why hasn't the United States given aid to Mexico to improve their economic and crime situations?
I just don't get it. Everyone complains about immigration but the US does nothing to help improve living conditions in Mexico so that their citizens don't have to come here to find safety and work. Most immigrants would happily stay at home with their families if they could make a decent living there. Why hasn't the US done anything to help them! Maybe they realize that our economy would collapse without the workers who are here getting paid slave wages? All this money is being poured in the Middle East but nothing is being done to help our neighbors. Is it because there is no oil in Mexico?
Economics - 5 Answers
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1 :
What? I think you need to Google Grants to Mexico and also look at how many of their people live on our tax dollar as welfare, get free schooling and medical expenses. Also, free Trade Agreements opened up many American jobs there, closing many plants in the U.S. that real Americans used to live on.
2 :
Mexico is an oil rich nation. The primary source of income to the Nation of Mexico is from their oil. The second largest source of income to Mexico is money sent back from Mexicans working in the USA. We help Mexico by turning a blind eye to the millions of their surplus population that came here take jobs from Americans, have "anchor" babies, and send money back to Mexico. PLEASE, dont believe that crap about doing jobs Americans wont do. Why should any American take a job that pays less than welfare. Have you ever wondered who did these jobs before the illegals ?
3 :
Each countries' government takes care of their own country. What I would like to ask is why isn't the Mexican government doing anything to improve their country? The US is currently still fighting unnecessary wars and using up money and is having a hard time trying to deal with many other problems as well. The US is not responsible to take care of Mexico in the first place. They're not as bad as people in North Korea or some parts of Africa where it needs the most helps. Mexico has a government of their own and the US money being worth more than that of Mexico's is not the US's problem. Illegal immigrants are choosing to come over here illegally. Also, Mexico is much less likely to do the opposite for the US. Their treatments of illegal immigrants have proved to be much worse and yet, they demand the US to give better treatments for the people who came over illegally when it's none of their business. US might help once all the problems are solved. If you're going to say that US should ignore the problems within their own country and try helping other countries first, that would be considered a selfish demand. Besides, America is already currently helping countries that are in worse conditions.
4 :
Because Mexico is corrupt and and their government pockets a lot of what we do give them. Actually, Bush did send them a fat check a while back, which I don't agree with, because it didn't go to any good use. I'd rather see that money be spent here to help education costs, etc.
5 :
Then if it is not Mexico, it will be some other country, but it will go on, enlessly.
I just don't get it. Everyone complains about immigration but the US does nothing to help improve living conditions in Mexico so that their citizens don't have to come here to find safety and work. Most immigrants would happily stay at home with their families if they could make a decent living there. Why hasn't the US done anything to help them! Maybe they realize that our economy would collapse without the workers who are here getting paid slave wages? All this money is being poured in the Middle East but nothing is being done to help our neighbors. Is it because there is no oil in Mexico?
Economics - 5 Answers
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What? I think you need to Google Grants to Mexico and also look at how many of their people live on our tax dollar as welfare, get free schooling and medical expenses. Also, free Trade Agreements opened up many American jobs there, closing many plants in the U.S. that real Americans used to live on.
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Mexico is an oil rich nation. The primary source of income to the Nation of Mexico is from their oil. The second largest source of income to Mexico is money sent back from Mexicans working in the USA. We help Mexico by turning a blind eye to the millions of their surplus population that came here take jobs from Americans, have "anchor" babies, and send money back to Mexico. PLEASE, dont believe that crap about doing jobs Americans wont do. Why should any American take a job that pays less than welfare. Have you ever wondered who did these jobs before the illegals ?
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Each countries' government takes care of their own country. What I would like to ask is why isn't the Mexican government doing anything to improve their country? The US is currently still fighting unnecessary wars and using up money and is having a hard time trying to deal with many other problems as well. The US is not responsible to take care of Mexico in the first place. They're not as bad as people in North Korea or some parts of Africa where it needs the most helps. Mexico has a government of their own and the US money being worth more than that of Mexico's is not the US's problem. Illegal immigrants are choosing to come over here illegally. Also, Mexico is much less likely to do the opposite for the US. Their treatments of illegal immigrants have proved to be much worse and yet, they demand the US to give better treatments for the people who came over illegally when it's none of their business. US might help once all the problems are solved. If you're going to say that US should ignore the problems within their own country and try helping other countries first, that would be considered a selfish demand. Besides, America is already currently helping countries that are in worse conditions.
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Because Mexico is corrupt and and their government pockets a lot of what we do give them. Actually, Bush did send them a fat check a while back, which I don't agree with, because it didn't go to any good use. I'd rather see that money be spent here to help education costs, etc.
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Then if it is not Mexico, it will be some other country, but it will go on, enlessly.
Tuesday, April 1, 2014
How does this make you feel about Mexico Migrants forced to be sex slaves in Mexico?
How does this make you feel about Mexico Migrants forced to be sex slaves in Mexico?
TAPACHULA, Mexico (AFP) รข€“ Locals call them "merchandise" and that is how criminal gangs treat the Central American youths they force into prostitution near Mexico's southern border with Guatemala. Victims recount being tricked into making the dangerous journey across Central America in the hope of a better life before being stopped en route in southern Mexico and forced to work for nothing. The Honduran consul in Mexico's southern Chiapas state, Patricia Villamil, alerted local authorities to several cases when she took on her job last November. When they failed to respond, she spoke out. "They bring women from Honduras, preferably under 18," said Villamil, who has already recorded a dozen cases of minors between 14 and 17 years old being forced into prostitution. "They steal their innocence. They hit them, mistreat them, humiliate and rape them," she said. Witness accounts map out a route starting in the poor communities of Honduras, passing through Guatemala before crossing the border into Mexico. The girls are then distributed among several dozen bars and brothels in Chiapas, which are each thought to employ between eight and 14 foreigners. A 17-year-old Honduran who gave her name as Valeria ended up in Mexico after following that well-worn route, on the promise of a free journey and a job in a restaurant in Mexico from a woman in her village. The single mother travelled with a friend and four other minors -- those who are most in demand by pimps at the border. Valeria eventually arrived at a sordid bar in Mexico where she forced herself to drink 17 beers to give her courage to face clients on her first night as a prostitute. "I had to 'deal with it' every time a client wanted it. It was six or seven times almost every day. Once it was 12 times," she told AFP. The owner of the bar demanded 5,000 pesos (430 dollars) for the journey. Another bar owner eventually paid the debt, but forced her to work for him in return. After four months' of work, with up to 16-hour days, she has not yet received any money. "Generally they don't pay minors. They give them food and clothes and build up new debts for them," said Enrique Mendez, the prosecutor in charge of crimes against immigrants in Chiapas state. Mendez denied that organized criminal groups were operating in the area, and said most girls arrived independently in Chiapas, on a route taken by hundreds of thousands of migrants hoping to reach the United States each year. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/mexicocrimeprostitutionchild;_ylt=AnHwZD.tTz7wK4b6mB8exaes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTQxamdlYzV0BGFzc2V0A2FmcC8yMDExMDQyNS9tZXhpY29jcmltZXByb3N0aXR1dGlvbmNoaWxkBGNjb2RlA21vc3Rwb3B1bGFyBGNwb3MDNARwb3MDMQRwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA21pZ3JhbnRzZm9yYw--
Immigration - 5 Answers
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it makes me think that mexico should do something about this problem..
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I think that could be a story made up to obtain sympathy for refugee status in the United States.
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that's sad, they really need to crack down on these criminals that take advantage of poor innocent girls that look for a better future to get treated lower than dirt
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Write you El Presidente since we have enough problem with your illegal Mexicans ruining our country.
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It is a disturbing fact that Obama allows Filipe Calderon to dictate US immigration policy and invited him to address congress for the purpose of influencing them on how to vote on bills that directly or indirectly affect Mexicans. Who cares about a few hundred Hondurans, so long as Illegal Mexicans are well treated. Mexico administers a " Do as I say, not as I do" policy when referring to their own Illegals. Mexico is too busy minding America's business and will stay immersed in successfully controlling the Obama Administration to see their own hypocrisy. Obama and Janet Napolitano say whatever appeases the American people while encouraging illegal immigration and protecting Illegals by giving all of them diplomatic immunity. Honduran slave trade is not the concern of Obama. He is dedicating his presidency on favoring Mexicans above all others.
TAPACHULA, Mexico (AFP) รข€“ Locals call them "merchandise" and that is how criminal gangs treat the Central American youths they force into prostitution near Mexico's southern border with Guatemala. Victims recount being tricked into making the dangerous journey across Central America in the hope of a better life before being stopped en route in southern Mexico and forced to work for nothing. The Honduran consul in Mexico's southern Chiapas state, Patricia Villamil, alerted local authorities to several cases when she took on her job last November. When they failed to respond, she spoke out. "They bring women from Honduras, preferably under 18," said Villamil, who has already recorded a dozen cases of minors between 14 and 17 years old being forced into prostitution. "They steal their innocence. They hit them, mistreat them, humiliate and rape them," she said. Witness accounts map out a route starting in the poor communities of Honduras, passing through Guatemala before crossing the border into Mexico. The girls are then distributed among several dozen bars and brothels in Chiapas, which are each thought to employ between eight and 14 foreigners. A 17-year-old Honduran who gave her name as Valeria ended up in Mexico after following that well-worn route, on the promise of a free journey and a job in a restaurant in Mexico from a woman in her village. The single mother travelled with a friend and four other minors -- those who are most in demand by pimps at the border. Valeria eventually arrived at a sordid bar in Mexico where she forced herself to drink 17 beers to give her courage to face clients on her first night as a prostitute. "I had to 'deal with it' every time a client wanted it. It was six or seven times almost every day. Once it was 12 times," she told AFP. The owner of the bar demanded 5,000 pesos (430 dollars) for the journey. Another bar owner eventually paid the debt, but forced her to work for him in return. After four months' of work, with up to 16-hour days, she has not yet received any money. "Generally they don't pay minors. They give them food and clothes and build up new debts for them," said Enrique Mendez, the prosecutor in charge of crimes against immigrants in Chiapas state. Mendez denied that organized criminal groups were operating in the area, and said most girls arrived independently in Chiapas, on a route taken by hundreds of thousands of migrants hoping to reach the United States each year. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/mexicocrimeprostitutionchild;_ylt=AnHwZD.tTz7wK4b6mB8exaes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTQxamdlYzV0BGFzc2V0A2FmcC8yMDExMDQyNS9tZXhpY29jcmltZXByb3N0aXR1dGlvbmNoaWxkBGNjb2RlA21vc3Rwb3B1bGFyBGNwb3MDNARwb3MDMQRwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA21pZ3JhbnRzZm9yYw--
Immigration - 5 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
it makes me think that mexico should do something about this problem..
2 :
I think that could be a story made up to obtain sympathy for refugee status in the United States.
3 :
that's sad, they really need to crack down on these criminals that take advantage of poor innocent girls that look for a better future to get treated lower than dirt
4 :
Write you El Presidente since we have enough problem with your illegal Mexicans ruining our country.
5 :
It is a disturbing fact that Obama allows Filipe Calderon to dictate US immigration policy and invited him to address congress for the purpose of influencing them on how to vote on bills that directly or indirectly affect Mexicans. Who cares about a few hundred Hondurans, so long as Illegal Mexicans are well treated. Mexico administers a " Do as I say, not as I do" policy when referring to their own Illegals. Mexico is too busy minding America's business and will stay immersed in successfully controlling the Obama Administration to see their own hypocrisy. Obama and Janet Napolitano say whatever appeases the American people while encouraging illegal immigration and protecting Illegals by giving all of them diplomatic immunity. Honduran slave trade is not the concern of Obama. He is dedicating his presidency on favoring Mexicans above all others.
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